Ericsson W25 (W35) Interesting Technical (Voip, IP PBX Software) Stuff by myself and one of my web site visitors: Trance Addict

20. August 2009 by admin.

* The following is a copy of some email conversations with one of my web site visitors: Trance Addict. I always encourage technical investigation into additional capabilities and possible value added functionality of equipment that I sell. The following conversation discusses Voice over IP (VOIP) - Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) [often associated with VOIP, but also with T.38 Fax Over IP (FOIP), as well as an IP PBX Software called 3CX. It is interesting from a mobile user point-of-view as often mobile broadband users want to extend Office Voice Telephone and Fax Communications to their mobile 3G platform (e.g. Sail and Motor Yacht, Motor Vehicle, RV, Mobile Construction, …) to let their office extend and travel along with them.

Like I said I encourage such technical investigation in the hopes that some result will come where any derived “solutions” can be provided to my customers, friends, and web site/blog visitors. If anyone has any comments please write:

communications @ marinetelecom.net or call +1 954 683 3426.

[Email Conversation/content starts here.]

Alan… Feel free to blog that.. and you can reference me as TA (Trance Addict from MA- trance_addict_1@hotmail.com) that is the handle I use online.. In any case, I really want to get the SIP stuff working directly from within the W25. I have my 3CX PBX offsite, so what I would like to do is have the W25 which is mounted in my car connect to my 3CX remotely and act as an extension while Iam driving around… Do you have any contacts at Ericsson that I could communicate with to get the W25 going… There are few archaic command line setups that are not that straightforward and I would really like to have someone on the phone to do it. I don’t mind calling international either. I don’t want to brick  the box by doing something wrong. I am definitely in support of your blog and business and will definitely send anyone I know your way.
Something else I found that AT&T is not blocking either SIP or SKYPE traffic on their network at the protocol level…. It is only blocked at a software level on the handsets itself (e,g, Skype and Fring on IPhone).. but once you have the W25 any device connected can use it for a dumb  pipe… Don’t know about Tmobile…. They offer the unlimited (5GB/month) Tzones service for $9.99 that is cheaper than the $19.99 Iam paying with ATT. BUt I don’t want to switch because Iam grand fathered in. So actually I also have skype phone GE231110 E  that is connected over the AT&T network… This information you probably don’t want to blog to avoid calling attention but it is good to know… I wonder if Tmobiles 3G network which is still growing is better or not.
Ditto on the speed.. Lately, I have been having a lot of problems from the tower that I connect to at home… the 7.2 MBps connection is seen as 3G+ in the W25 and it usually keeps dropping to 2G. I think it is the local tower because my service on my phone is also deteriorating. Iam sticking with the W25 until LTE comes out making it worth while to upgrade.
Cheerios!
TA
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From: Alan Spicer
To: Trance Addict

Subject: Re: Your Forum
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:25:58 -0400
Thanks again for the fantastic update. Let me know if I have permission to blog any of that - and how or if you want credit / contact information in any blog article.
 
Keep me in loop as you keep working on that stuff. Very interesting. I imagine everything would translate as well to the new Ericsson W35 model as well. New smaller sleeker case. Gets quite warm to the touch in my experience. Adds the HSUPA to the HSDPA for the full HSPA suite. In my experience still not getting screaming speeds - definately not any amazing boost in upload speed - at least in my neighborhood. Download did very well on speed tests.
 
I probably should make another Forum … but business/money has been the primary focus this year. Bad economy year - coupled with now it’s marine off-season in Fort Lauderdale (for us working / selling anyway.) So if you know anybody interested in the W25 / W35 (or anything related) send ‘em my way. I could use it.
 
 
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Alan Spicer
 
DBA Alan Spicer Telcom / Alan Spicer Marine Telecom
—– Original Message —–
From: Trance Addict
To: Alan Spicer
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 08:30
Subject: RE: Your Forum
As a follow-up to your question, money wise, I have google voice/gizmo for free inbound and outbound calling working through 3CX… It doesn’t get any better than this… You also get a DID number and with the 3CX PBX, it is nice to get that setup as a SIP trunk… Also you can do it directly from an ATA if thats what you want to do… If you have Skype, with 3CX they just released a SKYPE gateway plugin so I have my skype account setup as a Gateway also so you can choose what you want to use as an outbound trunk, Skype or SIP from 3CX.
I also wanted to confirm back to you that I have not had any luck with the FAX capability, but i am still trying to get it to work.
Lastly, reading through the documentation in the ADMIN guide for the W25, I was surprised to find that you can actually set it up as an ATA to connect direct to a SIP trunk as well… So in theory, you don’t need an ATA, just need to configure the w25 itself with SIP server settings and credentials…
This is what Iam focusing on now to see if I can just have the w25 do everything… The SIP server settings have to be done through command line.
Cheerios!
TA

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From: Alan Spicer

To: Trance Addict

Subject: Re: Your Forum
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:39:23 -0400
* I downloaded that (3CX) and playing with it a little bit. I don’t have any outbound sip service - other than Skype and my $ = 0. I did make an extension and installed the software phone and made that work. I’ve played with PBX stuff in the past, like Asterisk. Boy is that a beast. It would be nice to just hook up inexpensive ATA boxes to change Analog lines into SIP lines to the PBX software. Hardware cards for doing that kind of thing are still way expensive. Considering you might be trying to make something that you can sell that people would buy. Would have to beat New PBX prices …
 
Most Yachts big enough to be talking to already have a PBX. So getting them to change it - (unless it breaks) is often difficult. I have put boats on Vonage enough times … The thing is any system (VOIP or otherwise) has to work over whatever Internet Connection they get. Which can vay from WiFI to Cellular, to Satellite / VSAT for those that have it. If it won’t work over any connection then = GAME OVER.
 
Most VSAT comes with VOIP already … usually several lines. So hard to compete with that. But if a boat was just WiFi and Cellular 3G then it might be a possibility.
 
Ummmm FAX. That’s always a big question. We know the W25 and W35 have this T.38 - which itself requires a SIP Server. The only setup working is in Australia with Australian phone numbers. None in the U.S. If there was a way to do FAX that might add another bell to possible sales. 3CX supposedly has some kind of FAX SERVER capability built in. Any way you can test that capability????
 
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Alan Spicer
 
 
—– Original Message —–
From: Trance Addict
To: Alan Spicer

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 14:10
Subject: RE: Your Forum
Hi Alan,
Many thanks for the info… I’ll give it a thorough read…. By the way, I was thinking since you provide many services for your marine clients, may be you can offer a turnkey onboard PBX system with VOIP. I am using the free 3CX SIP server running on windows that is as easy to configure as pumpkin pie. I thought you may want to market that along with W23/W35 routers… Anyways, if there is anything I can do for you testing wise, let me know as I have a lot of IT gear and probably too much time on my hands..:-)
Regards,
TA
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From: Alan Spicer

To: Trance Addict, Alan Spicer
Subject: Re: Your Forum
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:57:46 -0400
* I’m sending both the W35 and W25 (latest admin guide that I have…) Admin Guides. Maybe when you did a SIP Server it was not on the standard or expected ports that the W25 knows about.
 
 
6.11.3 NAT ALGs
There are certain difficult applications that a NAT configuration cannot
manage. In many cases, Application Level Gateways (ALGs) are needed to
translate and transport packets correctly.
An ALG enables the transfer of specific application streams through NAT. This
is enabled by creating dynamic holes in NAT and changing IP addresses in
network protocol headers, and if a secondary port is required, the ALG will
open one. 
The Ericsson W25 includes NAT ALGs for the following protocols:
 
•  FTP (File Transfer Protocol)
•  TFTP (Trivial File Transfer Protocol)
•  RTSP (Real Time Streaming Protocol)
•  SIP (Session Initiation Protocol)
•  PPTP (Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol).
 Enable/Disable NAT ALGs
The included ALGs do not require any additional configuration and the
be enabled/disabled individually. 
To enable/disable an ALG, use the following commands:
$ cf set ip.napt.algs.ftp true|false
$ cf set ip.napt.algs.tftp true|false
$ cf set ip.napt.algs.rtsp true|false
$ cf set ip.napt.algs.sip true|false
$ cf set ip.napt.algs.pptp true|false
$ cf commit
 
6.11.3.2  Show NAT ALGs Configuration
To check the current status of an ALG,
$ cf show ip.napt.algs
ip.napt.algs.ftp true
            .tftp true
            .rtsp false
            .sip false
            .pptp false
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Alan Spicer
 
DBA Alan Spicer Telcom / Alan Spicer Marine Telecom
—– Original Message —–
From: Alan Spicer Marine Telecom
To: Trance Addict
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 12:36
Subject: Re: Your Forum
* Hello,
 
I took that forum down when I had to move my domains off of my own server to hosted service on 1and1.com. I was getting killed with costs from AT&T as a Business DSL and Phone customer. I couldn’t get every service working as I had before - because the server was right here and I could install anything vs hosted service which you take what they give you.
 
My blog is back running … as you have no doubt seen on http://blog.marinetelecom.net and I have a couple other content softwares on different domains that I have been testing. My signature on some of the blog posts tells what the other domains are.
 
It is very interesting the things that you have found … such as VOIP working through a SIP server and such.
 
I have never seen error messages yet that actually seemed to break anything on the Ericsson boxes. I’m not even sure what WUID means in the context of wuid_log. Usually “uid” has to do with User ID and setting permissions such as SUID - Set User ID and SGID - Set Group ID - But I’m thinking that WUID might mean Web User Interface Daemon or something like that. I don’t have W25 or W35 around right now to beat on looking for the answer to those things. It is Linux … But even having a Linux box I’m not getting a lot of answers to what that is. It sure looks like they are having trouble with User ID and Group ID … something related to RED BOOT.
 
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS255US256&q=RedBoot
 
Information concerning the RedBoot embedded system boot monitor and debug firmware.
sourceware.org/redboot/
 
* Searching for wuid_log seems to find several languages … but not english. And it’s a bit tedious to translate and follow conversations. I hadn’t found anything describing this exactly so far.
 
* Anyway every time I ask about these errors I usually get told that they don’t mean anything or are no important or affecting the product operation. Although it seems a little sloppy to me … to leave errors going into a log that END USERS can view at any time. When I see errors in my server logs I fix them
 
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—– Original Message —–
From: Trance Addict
To: Alan Spicer
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:38
Subject: Your Forum
Hi Alan,I can no longer find your marine telecom forum that you used to have for discussion topics. Is it still out there or did your kill the site? Anyways, I have been upgrading the firmware on the Ericsson W25whenever there is a new update available and recently I have been noting the following in the event log. I wantedto post this on the forum to see if any other users were seeing anything similar.Any ideas on what is going on?… Other than that, the router seems to work fine even with these warnings.Also, I have a couple of Voip phones connected to a PBX sip server that is connected to the router. The PBX is connectingto an outside SIP trunk.. I had checked the Application level gateway service for SIP in the NAT page,however, it did not work until I specifically forwarded the respective ports to the PBX SIP server…Do you know what  the application level gateway service check boxes do? There is no documentation available on this topicin the manuals as to what the purpose is.. In any case, just thought you could shine some light on this on your blog or if the forum still exists then I’d like to post it there..I have been poking around this device for over a year now and for hobbyists like ourselves, it is a neat littletrinket..:-) I was particularly surprised to find that you can actually do voip traffic over the cellular data network without the latency issues as long as you are not jumping from tower to tower.Cheerios!!TAEvent Log——————————–Jul  6 13:31:30 (none) daemon.warn wuid_log[3050]: Error in retrieving unlock_code in                RedBoot config data.Jul  6 13:31:30 (none) daemon.err wuid_log[3050]: Invalid uid/gidJul  6 13:31:35 (none) daemon.info wuid_log[3050]: doc text/link not setJul  6 13:31:35 (none) daemon.notice wuid_log[3050]: Session id not found ($wui.sid$)Jul  6 13:31:35 (none) daemon.warn wuid_log[3050]: Error in retrieving unlock_code in                RedBoot config data.Jul  6 13:31:35 (none) daemon.err wuid_log[3050]: Invalid uid/gidJul  6 13:31:35 (none) daemon.notice wuid_log[3050]: Session id not found ($wui.sid$)Jul  6 13:31:36 (none) daemon.warn wuid_log[3050]: Error in retrieving unlock_code in                RedBoot config data.Jul  6 13:31:36 (none) daemon.err wuid_log[3050]: Invalid uid/gidJul  6 13:31:36 (none) daemon.notice wuid_log[3050]: Session id not found ($wui.sid$)Jul  6 13:31:36 (none) daemon.warn wuid_log[3050]: Error in retrieving unlock_code in                RedBoot config data.Jul  6 13:31:36 (none) daemon.err wuid_log[3050]: Invalid uid/gidJul  6 13:31:37 (none) daemon.info wuid_log[3050]: doc text/link not setJul  6 13:31:40 (none) daemon.notice wuid_log[3050]: Session id not found ($wui.sid$)Jul  6 13:31:40 (none) daemon.warn wuid_log[3050]: Error in retrieving unlock_code in                RedBoot config data.Jul  6 13:31:40 (none) daemon.err wuid_log[3050]: Invalid uid/gidJul  6 13:31:41 (none) daemon.notice wuid_log[3050]: Session id not found ($wui.sid$)Jul  6 13:31:41 (none) daemon.warn wuid_log[3050]: Error in retrieving unlock_code in                RedBoot config data.Jul  6 13:31:41 (none) daemon.err wuid_log[3050]: Invalid uid/gidJul  6 13:31:42 (none) daemon.notice wuid_log[3050]: Session id not found ($wui.sid$)Jul  6 13:31:42 (none) daemon.warn wuid_log[3050]: Error in retrieving unlock_code in                RedBoot config data.Jul  6 13:31:42 (none) daemon.err wuid_log[3050]: Invalid uid/gidJul  6 13:31:48 (none) daemon.info wuid_log[3050]: doc text/link not set
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